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But not the custodian. the other thing about this decree i want to mention, which is a slight of hand i think that is being used to sugar the bitter pill for the egyptians is they're being assured this is all temporary. it's until there is a new constitution and until and until. however, temporary is always permanent. every single arab slate, including mubarak's egypt, but every arab state that oppresses people uses temporary laws. hitler never suspended the constitution. he never abrogated it. he suspended it for four years until the soviet army overran berlin. so temporary is permanent. >> d...

Of the american-mubarak relationship. >> this goes back to something you said. it's a re-creation of the imperial egypt, or the pharaohnic egypt if you want to use a cliche. egypt wants to play that role and has been trying to play that role unsuccessfully with respect to syria and trying to recapture in diplomacy what the revolution did recapture in the arab popular imagination. so this is a place where u.s. interests, morsi and israeli interests, because you have some of the israeli right who say great, let's make gaza egypt's problem forever. so there's a funny way that everybody's power dy...

Necessarily figure out how to let us deal with that. >> picking oun what heather is saying, i think the crisis poses an ultimate test for the obama administration in regards to the recent krans formation in the middle east. you see it in the fascinating relationship between president obama and mohammed morsi. two mag ma tist pragmatists trya way to mediate this. you see it in the backdrop of surprising riots in jordan which will cause increasing problems, you have that changing environment which you know far more about. but the arab street needs something different. these governments now need ...

Have an opportunity to present their ideas to the public. they swept the parliament, not so much because of their ideas but because for many years they were the only vibrant alternative. they were seen as incorruptible. but now we know the way that politics can corrupt, and people are starting to realize that what is governing egypt is now different interests, not so much idealologies. >> that's true, except also true is that politics can empower ide idealogues and while it's true the muslim brotherhood is diverse, and the guy that runs their tweeter feed is very moderate compared to their sup...

>> on both of those issues, boex and you characterized his attitude correctly. obama had great support from within the israeli defensive security establishment. they do not agree with netanyahu. >> we've seen that openly. >> they didn't agree with the idea of a ground invasion. there's a split between the demagoguic politicians, that's something that the president can work with. it's also by the way, the israeli opposition, if it ever got its act together could use and has not. >> the power grab in egypt and what that means for u.s. policy in the region, next. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and h...