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>> that signature is more in line with him being a doctor, andrea, maybe a reporter, not a secretary of the treasury. what i would say, somebody reminded me that tim geithner changed his signature a little bit when he became treasury secretary because he's going to be on the bill. so maybe. >> let's see it again. bring that picture back, because we just showed what it would look like. that is his signature. that's jack lew. if you want to go to him -- he may be a doctor, maybe he has a ph.d. he's not a medical doctor as far as i know. it's got to be the world's worst signature, looks more like...

Stinging. is that an asset or a liability? >> look, this guy, he is a professor. he has ph.d.. he was a professor. sometimes he is obsessed with his own thoughts and interesting solutions to things in the midst of everyone else's ideas. its quality that might not be attractive generally but i think the base likes how he is testy with the media, dismissing his questions, impossible to explain health care solution in 30 seconds. that is attractive to the base right now. it will be attractive to the independents? that remains to be seen. >> gregg: some people say it's mean but other people it's f...