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Shinseki didn't know? that's hog wash and you know it. the law required shinseki to receive those i.g. reports. 51 of them. the government accountability office, the i.g., the american legion, the press, and veterans themselves for years raised the issue of long wait time. what the hell was shinseki doing? playing golf with you? now in 2007, even you before you became president, knew of these problems. >> no veteran should have to fill out a 23-page claim to get care or wait months, even years to get an appointment at the v.a. >> your recommended? shorten the patient wait time to 14 days. and ...

Shinseki didn't know? that's hog wash and you know it. the law required shinseki to receive those i.g. reports. 51 of them. the government accountability office, the i.g., the american legion, the press, and veterans themselves for years raised the issue of long wait time. what the hell was shinseki doing? playing golf with you? now in 2007, even you before you became president, knew of these problems. >> no veteran should have to fill out a 23-page claim to get care or wait months, even years to get an appointment at the v.a. >> your recommended? shorten the patient wait time to 14 days. and ...

Everyone in the v.a. knew. my remedy, a federal investigation with you and eric holder totally out of it because of the conflict of interest. or the designation of at least a special prosecutor. the crime? criminally negligent homicide, involuntary manslaughter, falsifying records, obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence, obstruction by intimidation of the whistle blowers. your veterans administration was an organized criminal enterprise where veterans because of intentional wrongdoing on the part of the v.a. employees, were left to die. that intentional wrongdoing premised on the olde...

What was going on and was slanting it in favor of the v.a.? >> correct. >> wow! >> the phoenix downtown clinics' near list, the waiting time started at 477 days. and worked its way down. there are roughly 55, 56 patients per page. i don't believe it dropped down to the levels in the hundreds that the oig report was talking about until somewhere after page 8 or page 9. >> all right. dr. mitchell, i think you'll agree this is something for a criminal investigation. would you not? >> yes. >> doctor mitchell, thank you so much for what you've done for being a whistle blower. the veterans thank you...

Wrong with the va. and one of the things that's wrong is a lack of funding and resources for our va hospitals and our benefits offices. >> you bring up secretary shinseki. are you -- were you supportive of his resignation or do you think the president should have fired him sooner? >> i don't think releasing any one person is going to fix the syst systematic problems with the va. i'm meeting with my veterans advisory council later this week in anticipation of a meeting that i'm going to have with the assistant secretary joe mooney, along with senate majority leader harry reid to discuss the sys...