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>> it kills me that the mother mother -- that's why he didn't have to take action with them. he leaves his phone behind in a dry box, and then his mother gets possession of the phone before the police get to it. and his wallet also. >> he obviously has questionable judgment, but this might be a plan. >> big storm, small boat. >> that's my position and i'm sticking with it. >> what is interesting is the month before he transfers to his mother a guardianship if anything happens. that tells me maybe he was planning something just one month before. pat, now? >> that is a little odd. >> real fast a...

Is his stalking horse. that's why he didn't have to take assets with him. he's already got somebody taking care of them for him. he leaves his phone behind in a dry box and his mother gets possession of that phone before the police get to it. >> and his wallet behind, too. >> and his wallet also. >> these are things that could be deliberate rat. he obviously has questionable judgment, but this might be a plan. >>la i'ming outweighed here. big storm, small boat, bi-polar guy, had a bad day. the worst of all the bad days. that's my position and i'm sticking with it. >> what's interesting is the ...

Mother -- that's why he didn't have to take action with them. he leaves his phone behind in a dry box, and then his mother gets possession of the phone before the police get to it. and his wallet also. >> he obviously has questionable judgment, but this might be a plan. >> big storm, small boat. >> that's my position and i'm sticking with it. >> what is interesting is the month before he transfers to his mother a guardianship if anything happens. that tells me maybe he was planning something just one month before. pat, now? >> that is a little odd. >> real fast and i have to wrap. are we going...

>> well, she doesn't actually know. what she does know is that her sister left her phone behind, walked and got in the client's car, which is not -- which indicated to her sister that potentially she knew the client. what kimberly overstreet told us is that she has been pulling on that thread herself, doing some of the investigating, if you will, herself to try and determine exactly what happened. >> you also spoke with family members of the woman who triggered this whole investigation, shannon gilbert. are police telling them anything about whether they're closer to locating gilbert? >> they'...