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Cast of witnesses that this committee has been able to talk to, to put viewers in the room at the white house, in some of those key conversations as they flesh out the role of people like mark meadows. but again, all of this drives back to the former president at the center of it. >> ali, this plays into a series of new pieces of information that we heard this afternoon and today here at nbc news. let me bring people up to speed on what we know as we speak right now. first off, new reporting at nbc news that the january 6th select committee got only one text message conversation related to the...

That happened to up in the league? i mean, i think clearly the most damning part of that letter is the allegation that these text messages were deleted after their request to preserve them with given. when that happens, when there is a request for text messages, there's something generally called, a litigation hold. but whenever anyone makes a request, you hold on to things, and you don't destroy them. so, it's highly suspicious. it's conceivable that they were doing some sort of a routine phone migration. but it is unusual that they would do that, after a request has been made to preserve the...

Migration system, but were the only days of texts that were erased january 5th and 6th? that seems very unlikely that that is due to the phone migration. second, i would want to understand when this happened because what the letter says is that these text messages were requested by the ig as part of their investigation into january 6th and that after that request these texts were deleted. now, that raises a lot of suspicions as well because you should freeze everything when a request is made by any lawful investigator. and then finally it raises a lot of questions as to whose texts were delete...

Inspector general, but someone is going to ask for that stuff. sometimes it's not nefarious, it's just the complete failure of imagination. my experience with large bureaucracies is they have separate pieces that move independently and you need senior leadership, thoughtful senior leadership to get the big picture and understand all of the pieces, to take a step back and to say let's hold on to this stuff. the phone migration is important but it's not as important as preserving data because inevitably someone is going to ask for it. >> and there is some talk, eugene daniels, that there is some...

Service says that this is evidence of them cooperating. they say this is a phone migration and a phone reset, a system migration. leigh ann caldwell, what do we know about the secret service pushing back on this? >> well, that is a lot of e- mails and text messages that they did send over. what matters is the text messages and e-mails that the committee needs for its investigation. it's quality over quantity. what this shows is how big of a role the secret service is playing in the committee's investigation in the sense that how critical the secret service is in the committee piecing together ...