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Lawyer, who is essentially her patsy to ask fer a phony question and that phony question was about the targeting. and this is in anticipation of the i.g. report coming out in a few days. and that sort of plot was also, according to miss paz, was hatched by the director of the irs? >> well, we don't know those -- we don't know those specifics. what we do know is that miss lerner and mr. miller were talking about how to roll it out. we -- we don't know that it was going to take place at that moment in that way. but given that the i.g. report benefits to come out, they basically had a choice, you...

Thing, where lois lerner went to this aba meeting and got some woman lawyer, essentially her patsy to ask her a phony question, and the phony question was about the targeting, and this is all in anticipation of the report coming out in a few days and that sort of plot was also according to ms. paz, was hatched by the director of the irs? >> well, we don't know those -- we don't know those specifics. what we do know from ms. pa sfwlnz is that ms. lerner and mr. miller were talking about how to roll it out. we don't know it was going to take place at that moment in that way, but given the i.g. r...

Turned don mcghan and to this committee and said for the sake of my name, and to get to the bottom of this, i am not going to be an obstacle -- >> i welcome whatever the committee wants to do. i'm telling you truth. >> i want to do what you want to do. >> i'm innocent. i'm innocent of this charge. >> you don't want an fbi investigation? >> they don't reach conclusions. >> if there is no truth to her charges, the fbi investigation will show that. are you afraid that they might not? >> come on. gee whiz. >> the fbi does not reach -- you know that's a phony question because the fbi doesn't reach ...