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Times the entire population of new york city. the actual number may be bigger than that. we don't really know, and that is the point. it's totally out ofot control. there probably is, the border patrol does not have the right technology to do their job. the i problem is, the politicias don't care to fix it. if they did, they could solve the problem in an afternoon. borders are not that complex. it's not like weik are trying to gear pancreatic cancer here. our best minds are stumped. hardly. what worked for hadrian will work for us. it works for israel right now, and a lot of other places. wall...

Is creating what some are calling a virtual wall around the country. alberto hernandez is an immigration activist and he a joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> hola. >> tucker: hola. i want to talk to you because you are my measure of where the left is on this. so here is what we know, according to the "the washington post," which i will stipulate for the purposes of this conversation is a legitimate news organization. the president hasn't actually built the wall.iz all he is doing sen forcing the laws on the books passed with democratic support years ago. is that okay with you? >> yeah....

Something like sequestration up that is it going to cause these job loss says 11 -- 170 million jobs lost. >> 170 million jobs lost because of sequestration? one little bit i problem. there is only 150 million people that are employed in the united states of america. this is so bad that the sequestration not every every working american lose their job. all 150 million. but we have to import 20 million people in the country just for the purpose of firing to get up to the level of 170 million people losing jobs . now in fairness she later came back and someone gave her the right number. when you...

Something like sequestration up that is it going to cause these job loss says 11 -- 170 million jobs lost. >> 170 million jobs lost because of sequestration? one little bit i problem. there is only 150 million people that are employed in the united states of america. this is so bad that the sequestration not every every working american lose their job. all 150 million. but we have to import 20 million people in the country just for the purpose of firing to get up to the level of 170 million people losing jobs . now in fairness she later came back and someone gave her the right number. when you...

Was burning well before obama got there. it was policies and spending both from wall street and from the insiders in washington d.c. that got us i problem. >> megyn: and we're back now with our panel, a sampling of some of the second tier candidates as far as new hampshire is concerned anyway. newt gingrich, difference in town this morning at the debate than we've seen from him thus far. what's happening with him. kirsten? >> well, it's interesting, last night i think everyone was expecting that he come and kind of burn the place down, the way it had been laid out and he was saying, watch out ...