Because of the interest of medical or security of interest of the child. >> was there any reason that this is happening of this policy or this practice dates back even further? >> based on my reporting, katy, yes, there were separations under the obama administration but it was different. it was very serious crimes and the numbers don't seem to be as high. other thing to point out is that we know that beginning of the trump administration, february of 2017, they were already talking about separation as a deterrent and they started a pi program in el paso of what would become zero tolerance. >>...