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House they essentially shared with the president, whose campaign is under investigation, and with the white house counsel, who is a subject or a witness of this investigation, evidence in the case. so you have now read them in or given them a window into evidence, so that they could tailor testimony about what they now know about the investigation. that's not how you conduct investigations. that's another reason this is so wrong. >> let me ask you this because it gets to the bigger picture issue. we said this before earlier as well, that listen, there is a legitimate debate that has to happen ...

Memo. he said it damaged the relationship between the intelligence community and the congress. if you are in the congressional committee at this point, you are thinking to yourself: gee, i don't know if the intelligence community will share information with us because people will use it for political attacks like this nunes memo. >> you are thinking perhaps we would like to make sure we could rely on the veracity and truthfulness of information provided to us that we are previewing. that it isn't we are not being used as pawns in political chess. that's a problem too. they are basing their rep...

He brought up, and she points out that that might have been a different tone in his tweet, there's your one example. in this example of tweeting to someone who happens to be african-american, the tone in her opinion was different. so that could be considered growth. but that's not the point of this conversation. the point of this conversation is going back to whether or not we can look at what the president says and ignore that and look at what he does in terms of policies. i think we can. >> here's the point of this conversation, though, paris. because i think it's a bigger picture issue that...

When he was much younger he said his life is a comic book, and he's the star of it. he also said, the hoe is trump, and it's sold out every night. so he orchestrates his life as if it's a dramatic performance. and we're the audience and the people around him are props. reality just depends on what the show is that moment. and if it needs to change, he changes it. >> i see you're nodding in agreement. this is all part of the bigger picture issue that president trump has with the truth. you wrote a great piece about the president manipulating the media in a putin-esque way. you say, after years ...

Behavior with people that work on capitol hill. and we don't know who those people are at this moment. and i don't believe that that's senator al franken, that's not who she was talking about. so this is a bigger picture cultural issue about what kind of behavior we're seeing out of elected officials, celebrities in the news, people that are held up to a different standard. we know that people have made accusations against george h.w. bush and things that he did while he was posing for pictures with women. so it's a bigger picture issue. and so the political part of it, the roy moore situation...