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>> andrea: do you know to dana point whose plan he had for the budget? john grow, a democrat. >> bob: john grow? a democrat in name only. >> andrea: flash back to the past. give them credit. ryan has reached across the aisle to get democratic support. a lot of ideas are ideas that democrat support. >> bob: as far as i know, four or five. >> dana: the ryan plan, the cosponsor was ron white, democrat. >> bob: not the plan he came out with, with the house they passed. it was a different one. >> dana: it was, very sure. find out during the break. coming up, president obama hit the campaign trail t...

Up would have any changes to their plan. if you are younger than that, and you don't think it will be there for you anyway, then you have an obligation to learn more and realize -- >> bob: if you are younger than that, it's voucher system not medicare. >> dana: if government gettous the money and you make the choice -- >> bob: you can't afford to buy the stuff -- >> dana: not true. you pocket the difference. that's exactly right. i encourage you to read it, bob. >> andrea: copy of the federal system. if it's good enough for congress, good enough for american people. it's the same program as me...

Minutesment" thaminutes."that's. >> dana: two people were announced as moderators. three presidential debate and vice presidential debates. candy crowley will do one and bob schaefer the other. >> eric: an anchor on nbc, i can't remember her name, she has short hair, had a problem with mitt romney announcing paul ryan on the uss wisconsin. she said it's a backdrop he shouldn't use because neither one has military experience. pull up the screen of president obama using the military as a backdrop. three occasions of obama doing this. i'll look in this folder here. >> kimberly: is it magic? >> er...

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You cannot be for obamacare and be a protector of medicare. >> eric: stay on the reporting part of it. it sounded like an opinion to me. republicans, romney, and ryan have a ticket death wish. anybody? anyone fine that disturbing? >> dana: not really. candy to me gave herself -- i do think there is probably some republicans who said to them, lead up to it calling around who do you think will be the possible nominee? and if they threw out the name paul ryan, i don't doubt on background, under the guides of anonymity they said ryan would be terrible for us. but there is probably somebody who sai...