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Just throw out everything else that they said. so that goes to his credibility. we did ask donald trump jr. a number of times about this conversation with his father and he refused over and over to answer. and again, cooperating witnesses, they just come forward and they tell you the truth. witnesses who want to obstruct or invoke privileges that don't exist, those are typically people that have something to hide. there's ever reason to believe up and down the trump organization, the campaign and the family they have a lot to hide and hopefully bob mueller is given the ability to find that bec...

Just throw out everything else that they said. so that goes to his credibility. we did ask donald trump jr. a number of times about this conversation with his father and he refused over and over to answer. and again, cooperating witnesses, they just come forward and they tell you the truth. witnesses who want to obstruct or invoke privileges that don't exist, those are typically people that have something to hide. there's ever reason to believe up and down the trump organization, the campaign and the family they have a lot to hide and hopefully bob mueller is given the ability find that becaus...

Where judge kimba wood said look you have to stop this publicity four tour if you want to continue this this case. and you had steve ryan, michael cohen's attorney say his professional conduct i've never seen anything like it in my 30-some years of practicing law and you had the lawyer for donald trump piling on. >> what about the southern district of new york? >> they said we're not wading into this. and i think that's the point, right? this is a sideshow that people and michael cohen and his attorneys are very focused on because he's been out and in public and talking about this case. but wh...

He was very much a gateway between michael cohen and sort of some more nefarious people who were involved in this industry, like the russian mafia. if that's true and he can provide, you know, more evidence and more of a storyline, if you will -- because that's what cooperators do is they fill in the holes between documents, between records that you have and really allow prosecutors to tell a story. that builds an even more compelling case and gives even more reason for michael cohen to cooperate. >> i want to broaden out this conversation a little bit to talk more widely about the deputy of j...

Discrediting this investigation, and even asserting that it is criminal in nature, something bad going on, then that's going to help him fight and discredit whatever finding comes out at the end. >> rod rosenstein is going to be with the president today at this roundtable in bethpage, new york, talking about ms-13. rod rosenstein was also at another meeting where news cameras were allowed this morning. i think it was a bloomberg event. here's a little aside he had. take a listen. >> when i announced this new policy here in new york a few weeks ago, i explained that the term "piling on" refers ...