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>> joining me now, michael kay, a pilot and former senior british officer, and anthony roman, former commercial problem. your reaction to the developments tonight? >> just going back to the question on the protocols for leaving the cockpit, lawrence. the answer to that is there are two situation where is that door should be opened. the first one is when a pilot needs to go to the bathroom. the second one is when the cabin staff need to deliver a meal. what's interesting is that post 9/11, airbus put out a press release saying it addressed the problem of door security. it developed a door that ...

Person to be in the cockpit if the other pilot needs to take a break. >> reporter: right, i would say, anderson two things stood out to me in these press conferences. the first issue you just brought up which is they don't have protocol in place in which they have here in the united states which essentially is if someone, a pilot, copilot, has to leave the cockpit, either a trusted member of the crew or flight attendant will come in to the pilot or copilot is not in the cockpit alone. here that's not the case as far as lufthansa goes. the other thing that really got my attention is the fact th...

Pilot needs to be. there is procedures. it's not clear in europe they have that procedures in place. i want to talk about the door itself. if you approach that cockpit door -- this is outside the cockpit looking in. you want to get inside. there's a key pad. if you're not getting any response from the pilot you can perch in a number. now, the pilot has 30 seconds to say, no, i want to keep that door locked. if the pidt doesn't do anything if he's incapacitated after 30 seconds that door unlocks and you can get in. if the pilot was incapacitated, the pilot at the controls, in theory the other p...

According to "the times," the plane's voice recorder revealed -- >> joining me now michael kay, a pilot and former senior british officer, and anthony roman, former commercial problem. your reaction to the developments tonight? >> just going back to the question on the protocols for leaving the cockpit, lawrence. the answer to that is there are two situation where is that door should be opened. the first one is when a pilot needs to go to the bathroom. the second one is when the cabin staff need to deliver a meal. what's interesting is that post 9/11, airbus put out a press release saying it a...

They're having to go everywhere to get pilots. i'm not saying these are bad pilots, but it may be that you need more experience flying around particularly in these monsoons. >> a lot of people are calling for new regular rations, do you think that's the answer to all these accidents? >> the question is would an american control let that plane take off with that storm and would there be any differences in the decisions that would be made, maybe an international faa, if you will. i think people will learn. airasia was started about 10 years ago, he literally bought the company for a quarter put ...