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International red cross. putin would have to allow for them to be established. so far russian forces are firing artillery and have not orrin honored any of those agreements, arthel. arthel: yeah. putin can't commit to a no-fly zone to protect humanitarian pathways, you know, russian and ukraine officials are scheduled to hold more talks sunday -- excuse me, monday, which is tomorrow. that'll be the third round. but you may remember that president zelenskyyed had asked to speak directly with president putin, you know, president to president. so without that kind of direct dialogue, can there be...

Pulmoa map. we have an animated map that shows the time lapse of russia's invasion with putin's forces advancing from the south, the east and the north. while we look at this map, general, i understand it is your position that a putin is not so concerned about ukraine joining nato, but ukraine's independence and democracy. how does that threaten boot -- putin? >> it does threaten putin in that, you know, ukraine has developed this democracy over time. it's slow, it's awkward in many ways also, but it is a democracy that has emerged. and over the last 30 years of its independence from the old s...

Negotiation would fail. putin held almost two hours of talks with friend. marrone. some debate about how planes could be backed by the u.s., but that's something ukraine desperate for. they want any and and all help they can get. eric: president zelenskyy has been begging nato and our allies to provide a no-fly zone. the west, of course, and nato says there are fears that that would cause a wider war. what is the sense there on that possibility and the fact that these polish gents, maybe mig 29s from armenia, may be able to join the fight, about 70 available for. >> reporter: every civilian do...