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Mitchell casado, a pilot trainer who has worked in a triple 7 pilot simulator and hans weber. there are lots of theories out there, hans. one that many believe is that this plane is somewhere probably on the bottom of the ocean. if so, why not debris field? can this happen without a debris field? >> no, it cannot happen without a debris field. there is always a debris field. there are many items on an airplane that are buoyant, sea cushions, et cetera, usually, there are air pockets in stabilizers. remember, the air france 447 had the vertical stabilizer float around in the ocean. if you're in...

Who has worked in a triple 7 pilot simulator, and, hans, to you first. there are lots of theories out there, hans. one that many believe is that this plane is somewhere probably on the bottom of the ocean. if so, why not debris field? can this happen without a debris field? >> no, it cannot happen without a debris field. there is always a debris field. there are many items on an airplane that are buoyant, sea cushions, et cetera, usually, there are air pockets in stabilizers. remember, the air france 447 had the vertical stabilizer float around in the ocean. if you're interested, i could offer...

Is no certainty yet. >> well, again, all the fbi and cia have said and intelligence is is that there are no links to terrorism yet. not ready to say the plane has definitely gone down my understanding is that fbi has been asked to assist malaysia as far as going through the pilot simulator but again that took so long to ask for the fbi or any international intelligence agency or investigative agency to get involved. no. we're, in no way is our government saying this is definitive. i don't know what could have justify that had other than to deflect this criticism he's been getting. especially f...