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Correspondent, pete williams. so, pete, i can't help the system pinged. that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about precisely how this was handled, but if you ...

Security committee. let's listen to him. >> when i was briefed by the fbi, they told me they had no knowledge of his overseas trip to the chechen region. when, in fact, the secretary then testifies and says that they got pinged, that there was a flag that went up that did indicate that he was traveling to russia and to the chechen region. you know, we talked a lot about connecting the dots and stove pipes after 9/11. and here we are 12 years later, and the fact remains that it's still not -- it's not working. >> pete, this is so difficult because we're looking for institutional blame here. i u...

>> we don't know the answer to that question, but that is the question because when i was briefed by the fbi, they told me they had no knowledge of his overseas trip to the chechen region and when the secretary then testifies and said they got pinged. that there was a flag that went up that did indicate he was traveling to russia and to the region. that's very important because this russian intelligence communique warns about this individual travels outside of the united states to join extremists underground groups, and so, you know, we talked a lot about connecting the dots and stove pipes af...

Agencies and continuing a brief with department of homeland security, so i think the exact details of this, you know, i would wait to hear that. we don't know exactly who is telling who what in the hallway on the hill. i would like to hear the results, of course, going to be a closed briefing, but i think jim acosta will hear afterward a little more detail of what the information was based on. so you're right, they have to -- they have to look at what information occurred, or was received in 2011, what happened in the response to the russians, what happened since then what was the status of ta...

The car transaction, they had some phone numbers but they didn't know the name. they ran it through the system. it was that cbp report that pinged. that i'm told is how they got his name. >> let's go back to this point. i remember your first statement. it is your position, despite what the obama administration would call a success, i know they caught him at the last minute, they had the survei surveillance hitch, but they did catch him, they say he has been talking, and they say he's giving them valuable information. are from your statement, you say this administration has a different approach...