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We have completely lost sight of the northern arc. once the malaysian prime minister made the famous 10:00 p.m. announcement that they determined it was the south, we really stopped looking at the north all together. i heard that malaysia had asked kazakhstan if they could set up a search facility up there. i haven't heard back about it. so, great question. >> mary, question from dale. it says why not drop pinger in area to calibrate detected pings. we know the ocean can play tricks on sounds. should they put a pinger down to see how pings are manipulated in that part of the ocean? >> absolute...

There, from what i do know i would have a hard time giving up without more harder look at what they may or may not have missed or should they make this bull's eye bigger. >> mary, to that point, if the satellite data is accurate and richard's data indicates it is and the pings were from the black boxes, the searchers are presumably close. >> they are certainly close. we have heard a lot of interesting things about the ocean and the sounds in the ocean and the effects of pingers, et cetera. there's a lot of things they can dean unknowns. for example, one thing was the frequency on the ping. hav...

From april 9th it seems so long ago. it is just a matter of finding it, right? >> it does, sarah was talking earlier about no credible evidence and they have been lied to. and i certainly appreciate her sentiment at that. the one thing that i'm hanging onto and i'm confident about is those pings came from a pinger, i don't see any other thing that this could be. it has not been disputed logically by anyone else to me. i believe they're in the right area. there are things that bother me about the fact they're talking about retracting from that area, after they finish the six mile circle. rememb...

Possibility of the pinger signals from the two so-called black boxes being 17 miles apart if it landed in tact. >> if it landed in tact then the boxes would be in tacts. >> there are four pinger detections 17 miles apart some of them. >> normally wouldn't expect them to be that physically far apart on the bottom. they should be, you know, maybe a mile or two is one thing, but 17 miles is is a different manner. >> it's a whole different world. >> thanks very much kevin and tom. good analysis. that's it for me.

>> i just don't know how you give up in this area if they're so sure of these pings. i am just not sure if they walked away from this and steam ahead of this, and this arc, i think this area -- not knowing exactly what went on from there just from what i do know i have a hard time giving up on this area without looking at a harder area, of what they may or may not have missed. should they make this bull's eye better? >> if the satellite data is accurate, and the pings were in fact from those black boxes, the searchers are presumably close. >> well, they're certainly close. but we've heard a lo...