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The north atlantic. thank you for joining us. do you think that investigators are going about the search for flight 370 in the right manner? >> thank you for inviting me, don. first of all, yes, i think so. "titanic" did not have a ping er on it that we could listen and be guaranteed within a few miles of the wreck in order to know where it was. and given the fact this is a standard search procedure that the u.s. navy uses for its military planes and things like that, i really can't see any other options. >> so you think they are searching in the right area, jules? >> if they heard the pinger,...

Happens. it's the fact they're having glitches, they're able to fix them quickly on the deck and get them back into the water. that's a promising sign. >> i want to get you both to respond to this interesting quote i read earlier. a wreckage expert, not connected to the search, told the australian media, quote, i think essentially they have found the wreckage site, four very, very good detections with the right spectrum of noise and it can't be from anything else. >> basically, yes. i've said so on several previous shows, the two hour 15 minute episode, first event last saturday was very compe...

Realized that the opportunity to find the wreckage has passed, the combination of a slow start, and a tropical cyclone has just made it impossible. time to focus on the bottom of the ocean. >> and, thomas, that blue fin could be searching the bottom of the ocean for two months. this operation is getting expensive. at what point should they consider scaling back the operation? >> well, it's probably not something that i really have a good feel for. that's a decision that really is something that the community and the malaysian airlines needs to think about, but it does, you know, move to a fact...

Was probably a surprise to them when they realized, wow, this is deeper than we thought. >> i want to go back to perth, jeffrey thomas is joining us from perth, editor in chief of airlineratings.com. what's the latest you're hearing as far as this underwater search is going on? you're there on the scene, jeffrey. >> reporter: indeed, wolf. look, the way it's been described to me is that this first mission that was aborted, this is more of a shakedown mission to see what the operating environment is at the very bottom. echo has actually been in the area for quite some time, over a week, and it ...

P.h. good to talk to you from boston. school us a little bit about just the conditions, pitch black, incredible pressure, how does this search compare to work you did on the "titanic"? >> it's the same kind of search because we're looking for debris field. it was a huge debris field where you can find things from china, piece of wreck, anything like that. same condition of course, totally dark and have to use some light to see anything, you are also use sewing near. we can detect some equipment. we were using also pinger on the debris field because we want to mark some special place, you know,...