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The first port we are building won't be ready for two years. even when it is ready it will take years before we can supply the amount of natural gas through the pipe lines. europe is not going to go through several harsh cold winters in order to satisfy the american president. there are lots of really practical problems at play here. this is a much more complex situation. this is not the cold war. this is far, far more difficult than the cold war. and the europeans, i have sympathy for them. they are caught between these two instincts. they support the democratic aspiration of the ukrainian pe...

The natural gas pipe lines. look how many run through ukraine. they all come out of russia and go through ukraine in the black sea or feed their way toward europe. and especially slovakia. the lines that go into slovakia feed germany, and italy. 90% of the europe's oil reserves come from -- come from russia. the reason this is so important to russian interests. this is the black sea, it's water and it leads to the south and toward the mediterranean. it gives you an idea of what putin is thinking and what folks in kiev are thinking. martha: john kerry heading there

Greenhouse gases because the oil is coming down, whether anybody likes it not, on rail, does not require his presidential permit. so the choice for john kerry and the president is do you want the oil coming through the united states and through canada on rail or do you want it on pipe lines? >> i have to ask you -- >> lower cost, lower risk, and lower ghgs on pipelines. other than that, it's not that complicated. all right, mr. baerkd i got to ask you about the situation in ukraine. your thoughts on that and the, aggressive move bay the russians, the russian federation holding military operati...

It is inappropriate. >> inappropriate to say the least. i want to make one more point. the keystone pipeline is what they're protesting, pipe lines are the safest way in the country to transport oil. they should take that into account. >> i'm sure they walked over. >> right, i am sure they didn't take a car, see you next time. you can soon expect major sticker shock on your next trip to the grocery store. in a move that can only happen in america, a trial lawyer who once defended what is one of the most recognizable food brands now is saying they up for america's obesity problem. trace galla...

It is inappropriate. >> inappropriate to say the least. i want to make one more point. the keystone pipeline is what they're protesting, pipe lines are the safest way in the country to transport oil. they should take that into account. >> i'm sure they walked over. >> right, i am sure they didn't take a car, see you next time. you can soon expect major sticker shock on your next trip to the grocery store. in a move that can only happen in america, a trial lawyer who once defended what is one of the most recognizable food brands now is saying they show pay up for america's obesity problem. tr...