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Voter turnout and in states with the strictest voter i.d. laws. >> i think what is surprising about this debate is we haven't talked at all about the other ferguson report. i mean, you talk about moral clarity, there is moral clarity in the ferguson report where rative they describes instances where african-americans -- a cen >> let me interrupt for a second because we have statistics on tu the screen. this is a report about the ctest general police department in ferguson. >> please put it on the screen. think t blacks make up or made up 67% ofhe o the thpopulation in ferguson but clari theyty...

Breathe," suggests that the chokehold they are talking about hadn't been applied yet. if a real chokehold is applied it cracks your larynx and you can't say i can't breathe. >> you are right we only need -- what i'm saying to you is that there is a possibility there was a mistake made. right? >> i grant you that. also a possibility there wasn't. the possibility that there was a mistake made then ignites the protester who's believe in their some of them sincere and some of them are. >> everything is unfair it blacks and they are targeting blacks. as i said, we got the stats and they are posted ...

Racist. his question should not have been was this not a fair friel. the question to him should have been who are you to pass judgment on this trial. >> that's a big charge you're going to make. why do you say that? i will look-- i've debated him on the controversial things he's said. we've had a fiery debate over the years. do you think this case shows that? do you believe he has a racist heart? >> i believe when you are trying to pit one race against another race, he is trying to pit blacks against whites. there is a racist element, not just a racial element, there is a racist element there....

Racist. his question should not have been was this not a fair friel. the question to him should have been who are you to pass judgment on this trial. >> that's a big charge you're going to make. why do you say that? i will look-- i've debated him on the controversial things he's said. we've had a fiery debate over the years. do you think this case shows that? do you believe he has a racist heart? >> i believe when you are trying to pit one race against another race, he is trying to pit blacks against whites. there is a racist element, not just a racial element, there is a racist element there....

And portfolio but particularly cost the black community when it came to home ownership and the modest investments many had. that wealth gap is a challenge for the nation in the 21st century. >> i'm interested in that point. marc, as i understand, it blacks hold more of their wealth in housing than stocks. that seems to be another reason why that gap would have increased because the markets have gone up so much since the crisis but housing is only starting to rebound. what does that mean in terms of policy solutions? what would you like to have seen done? would you have liked more help around h...