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Today the second ranking democrat in the senate, senator dick durbin, reiterated that pledge and issued a joint statement with california senator alex padilla which says quote we are deeply disappointed in the parliamentarian's decision but the fight for immigration reform will continue. senate democrats have prepared an alternative proposal for the parliamentarian's consideration in the coming days. senator durbin also told nbc news that senate democrats have a plan b and a plan c and a plan d on putting immigration in the big reconciliation bill. so i have questions. a lot of people do. what...

Way they were planning to in that bill which means they can't pass immigration reform without running up against a republican filibuster which means there isn't hope for getting it passed. unless there is some other way. interestingly today, democratic senators who have been working hard on that issue say plan a was try to pass something through the senate through normal order with republicans pledging to filibuster everything. plan b was to try to get it done with permission of the parliamentarian. now that the parliamentarian has said no they said today they've got a plan c and a plan d to g...

>> thanks for having me. >> indeed. well, talk us through what we should understand about this. it does seem like the parliamentarian's ruling was nobody's idea of a sure bet. we've been assured by senate leadership by the senate democratic leadership there is a plan b, an alternate proposal ready to go back to her. can you talk us through a little bit how this is going to go? >> sure. first and foremost is the parliamentarian's ruling we learned of last night disappointing? absolutely. does it come as a complete shock? no. because as you know in our business you hope for the best prepare for ...

A plan b and a plan c and a plan d on putting immigration in the big reconciliation bill. so i have questions. a lot of people do. what is plan b? also what is plan c? what is plan d? what are these new proposals going to look like? if democrats really are going to not take no for an answer, if they get through this plan b proposal and it gets rejected and they try plan c and they try plan d, could this reach a point where democrats decide to yeefr rule the parliamentarian or replace the parliamentarian both of which happened before because they care enough about this issue that they are going...

Out of respect to the millions of immigrants that have been living in the united states for years and years and years. rachel, as you know adult undocumented immigrants have been in the united states on average for 18 years of working, paying taxes, buying homes, raising families, contributing to the success of our country. they deserve to live without fear of deportation. and so plan b, plan c, whatever it takes we'll keep fighting until we get to yes and provide those protections and security for as many people as possible as quickly as possible. >> when you say you'll keep fighting until yo...