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Just to get the right description out there. hey, so much for your challenge. looks like joe walsh is willing to stick with his principle here. does that surprise you? >> thank you, lawrence. let me just say i appreciate mr. walsh and his position. at least he's being honest and true about it. the reality is most of the people rejecting are government subsidized, working for congress we are subsidized by congress. we do pay into it as you so well explained. but others who have said they are also going to forego the congressional health benefits, they have a plan b. one is the retired air force...

>> congressman crowley, to your challenge, the truth of it is the congressional plan is like most employer plans, you actually pay money into it right out of your pocket. you make premium payments, you make co-payments. your employer also helps with the premium. it's a standard employer provided style program. people think it's just free for senators and congressman which it isn't. just to get the right description out there. hey, so much for your challenge. looks like joe walsh is willing to stick with his principle here. does that surprise you? >> thank you, lawrence. let me just say i appre...