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Government in kiev that's subservient to moscow and that would cover the whole country. i continue to believe that partition, particularly by mill fare force is plan b. plan a remains to be how meteorolo homogeny. >> you have two candidates, the so-called heroine, who was pris the other candy, a billionaire, a chocolate king. the russians even shut some of his factories. who do you think would be best for the west this? >> both these candidates have been on several sides of major issue, but poroshenko was pro-nato membership,

Conservatives are accused falsely of wanting dirty air and water, not caring about old people, wanting to kill grandma and children that have autism and down syndrome. that's not a game anymore, joe. this is now your democratic party. this is the daily rhetoric that we get out of the democratic party and the democratic media. >> yeah, okay, sean. well, first of all, i haven't done any of those things that i'm aware of and second of all, not all democrats do that and, by the way, no one on the republican side ever accuses anybody of anything, so that's okay. >> sean: give me an example what you...

Optics war, grover? >> well, it's all politics. he's not put a proposal on the table that makes any sense. when talk about plans a, b, and c, the republicans have passed plan a, the ryan bill, ryan budget and plan. that saves $6 trillion over the next decade. it reforms entitlements. it reforms taxes. doesn't raise them, reforms them without raising taxes on people. so that's a plan that's written down that's passed the house of representatives and has strong support among republicans in the senate. the alternative is nothing. >> we know that's not going to pass the senate and we also know the...

>> got to leave it there. always good to see you. >> thanks. >> to ed henry in honolulu where the president is set to depart tonight. we got breaking news from the speaker and i believe -- they said we have a couple deals on the table. it's your turn, senate. >> yeah, eric, that's where the ball is going now. but what i think the speaker and maybe majority leader eric cantor are leaving out is the reason all eyes turned to the senate is the speaker can't get the job done thursday on plan b. plan a is essentially the big deal, the $4 trillion debt plan. i was speaking a short time ago to a whit...

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