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They're looking at here is the fbi often when trying to unravel a conspiracy will seek to charge conspirators with crimes and use that as leverage to get them to talk in exchange for a reduced sentence. mike flynn appears to be in serious legal jeopardy on a number of fronts including his lobbying and failure to disclose payment for the 2015 trip to russia and so, you know, you can presume that's the road the fbi is going down. thomas? >> lastly, plausible deniability for president trump. we think back to the watergate hearings what did the president know and when did he know it, the famous qu...

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Her, you know, we have men who come here for one or two years, get a few puff pieces and they go out and they run for president. >> hm. okay. so she could be talking about senator ted cruz senator rand paul or even senator marco rubio or kimberly, she could be talking about senator, now president obama. >> right. can i tell you, that was my first. >> that was your first? wow. >> talking about president obama. it's kind of interesting. >> young guy in chicago? >> all right. here we go. hey -- >> only on "the five." >> plausible deniability. she is very strong on national security and on foreign...

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