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Articulate their argument against collective bargaining on benefits and workforce rules for public employees, they make the argument public employees are not like private employees in some crucial ways. i want to play sound from toe la -- ohio, where there is a firefighters struck. >> firemen join police, bar ginlg collectors and other city employees in a two-day strike which left toledo unprotected. residents were rescued by supervisory personnel. >> i want you to respond to that. it seems to briefly sort of play devil's advocate on behalf of the conservative argument, the public employees an...

Them. it is a different kind of warfare. it doesn't respect boundaries. he doesn't wear a uniform. he travels all over the world. >> judge jeanine: is he an enemy combatant? >> absolutely. >> judge jeanine: legal, mike? >> do i care? >> you should care as americans we should care. >> judge jeanine: here is the problem. >> i guess i should be -- >> nobody should be. >> judge jeanine: we are talking about his being an imminent threat. what evidence, what proof, play devil's advocate, do we have of his being an imminent threat? >> he was actively engaged in and his primary responsibility was to s...

We sort of declared war on them. it is a different kind of warfare. it doesn't respect boundaries. he doesn't wear a uniform. he travels all over the world. >> judge jeanine: is he an enemy combatant? >> absolutely. >> judge jeanine: legal, mike? >> do i care? >> you should care as americans we should care. >> judge jeanine: here is the problem. >> i guess i should be -- >> nobody should be. >> judge jeanine: we are talking about his being an imminent threat. what evidence, what proof, play devil's advocate, do we have of his being an imminent threat? >> he was actively engaged in and his prim...

We sort of declared war on them. it is a different kind of warfare. it doesn't respect boundaries. he doesn't wear a uniform. he travels all over the world. >> judge jeanine: is he an enemy combatant? >> absolutely. >> judge jeanine: legal, mike? >> do i care? >> you should care as americans we should care. >> judge jeanine: here is the problem. >> i guess i should be -- >> nobody should be. >> judge jeanine: we are talking about his being an imminent threat. what evidence, what proof, play devil's advocate, do we have of his being an imminent threat? >> he was actively engaged in and his prim...

On the abortion issue, the government will not pay for elective abortions. i saw congressman chris smith on television yesterday incensed because he said differently. >> activists on both sides are unhappy with how the plan deals with the abortion issue. we looked at this very carefully. there are detailed accounting rules within the legislation that say if someone gets help from the government to buy a plan but also puts up their own money, the insurance companies have to keep those funds separate. we think it's a credible case. again, activists on both sides not so thrilled with it. but it d...