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Jumped out. but there were bushes out there. >> right by the side of where he was supposedly into the concrete, were there bushes right there? >> frankly, i don't think you could have seen the bushes. my guess is, they both were afraid for their lives, they didn't know what was coming at each one. >> i would agree, pitch black. sad comment tear. we may not ever know. both of them had to be afraid. >> he has made his "testimony" through all those statements. >> i saw a picture of the bushes. nobody jumped out on him. but zimmerman brought this party together. he created it. not trayvon. zimmerm...

Jumped out. but there were bushes out there. >> right by the side of where he was supposedly into the concrete, were there bushes right there? >> frankly, i don't think you could have seen the bushes. my guess is, they both were afraid for their lives, they didn't know what was coming at each one. >> i would agree, pitch black. sad comment tear. we may not ever know. both of them had to be afraid. >> he has made his "testimony" through all those statements. >> i saw a picture of the bushes. nobody jumped out on him. but zimmerman brought this party together. he created it. not trayvon. zimmerm...

Quality. but this is a drawing that will be on tons of merchandise. it's not that hard to put a little effort into a drawing that portrays the character as who the character is as opposed to this sort of grotesque, you know, sexist sort of depiction of her. >> maybe some people will say she looks a little older, more in line with the other, you know -- playing devils advocate. more in line with some of the other princesses. anything that you can do, any other actions like a lawsuit? do you have any standing on merchandising claims, anything you can do aside from putting your name on the petiti...

Hopefully that's helpful in some way. we don't become a run away train one way or the other. >> you're kind of playing devil's advocate at times. >> yeah, probably. probably. yeah. i think but not just for the sake of doing it, i think i have genuine questions. i mean i have my beliefs. but, i also, you know, i'm interested in hearing the other side. so i like having that debate. and that's the beauty of morning joe is we've created a place where that can happen. and we encourage it to happen and we don't have food fights and this guy's on the right and he's on the left and they go at it. we h...

Here in the u.s. because it would be a logistical nightmare and the practical point, if the kid is crying loud enough the whole plane is going to hear it no matter what. you can't block that out unless you have headphones or whatever. >> playing devil's advocate, flying with a child, i have two one of the most stressful situations. everybody is getting annoyed. there's nothing you can really do. it's tough. >> it's a tough spot for everybody. it really is. paul ryan was gunning for support in ohio, literally. you know -- >> battleground state. >> avid outdoorsman. a picture of him buying cam...