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We did know. we had knowledge of it. so now what happens? you have the d. o. j. knowing, probably all the way up to the white house knowing and you have president obama on tv saying we know nothing. they have to cover that ramos interview. they have to figure out how to do it. >> holder said he only learned about it a couple of months prior and seven months later he had to retract that testimony, which was false, and then he said oh, i did know about it earlier, because he had been caught. >> in a lie basically. >> well, roger clemens was just tried on the same thing. >> exactly, for trying to...

We did know. we had knowledge of it. so now what happens? you have the d. o. j. knowing, probably all the way up to the white house knowing and you have president obama on tv saying we know nothing. they have to cover that ramos interview. they have to figure out how to do it. >> holder said he only learned about it a couple of months prior and seven months later he had to retract that testimony, which was false, and then he said oh, i did know about it earlier, because he had been caught. >> in a lie basically. >> well, roger clemens was just tried on the same thing. >> exactly, for trying to...

>> i don't watch much. i do enjoy the tournament and watch it each year along with other sports. i would have to say those people do know what they are talking about. but this is a game of chance i would have to say. with all of the last-second happenings, you just never know. >> what was it about bcu that you liked to put in the final four? >> it was a bit accidental. i did select uconn, kentucky and butler. i like the coaches. bcu happened to be in the playing game with usc. when i went down the bracket looking and saw usc was there, my alma mater, rhode island, didn't make it this year, so ...

Sports. i am excited. >> this is the day, right? 16 games going on. 16 more tomorrow. the powers that be added a wrinkle this year, there had been one extra game been arguably the two worst teams in the tournament. the playing game. this year there were two on tuesday, two last night. game won, texas, san antonio, versus alabama state. the not-so-lucky winner gets ohio state in the next round. melvin johnson well 29. texas san antonio wins, and the nays are they get to play the -- and for that they get to play the ohio state buckeyes. carol gives a shout out to the buckeyes. the other game l...

At the same time we want to apply to your accomplishment, truly incredible to be new york's biggest disaster at a time when david paterson is still governor. >> seth meyers and jerry seinfeld on sat night live talking about eric massa. >> moving on to some truly important and shallow business. get brackets ready. ncaa tournament tips off tomorrow night with that silly playing game. whatever. with us, lindsey -- the playing game. i can't get excited about it. >> you had to tip off. >> we can go back to 64 teams. this whole 65 business is ridiculous. look, the brackets are out. let's first get l...