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But that's exactly what was going on. should people still care, or is it just the past? >> people should certainly care. and what happened during that time was that there was an unusual, i called it irregular channel that was operating between the united states and ukraine. this irregular channel was not part of the regular channel that normally handles foreign policy. this was an irregular channel that mr. giuliani was playing in, and the ambassador as well. it made people think, and misled people, that this was actual u.s. foreign policy. it was not. and they now understand that well.

This was an irregular channel that mr. giuliani was playing in, and the ambassador as well. it made people think, and misled people, that this was actual u.s. foreign policy. it was not. and they now understand that well. >> so going forward, as i teed it up at the top here, how important is it that president biden come strong at putin in a way that trump never did? and is saying the community is going to protect democracies again enough? >> i think it's very important. president biden has made it very clear that he is clear-eyed about president putin. we know that you played some of

Welcome back. shannon crawly and jerme jermeir stroud had managed to keep their affair hid from denita. now detectives felt they had uncovered significant evidence against shannon. there was the gunshot residue in her car, an allibi that did not check out and a potential motive. just one day later it was time for denita's family to mourn their loss. once again here's josh. >> reporter: they called it a "home-going service," the final farewell to 25-year-old denita smith, who had departed this world under the worst of circumstances. just a week earlier denita's mother, sharon, was starting to p...

Danita's family to mourn their loss. once again, here is josh >> reporter: they called it a "home-going service," the final farewell to 25-year-old denita smith, who had departed this world under the worst of circumstances. just a week earlier denita's mother, sharon, was starting to plan her daughter's wedding. now she was attending denita's funeral. >> no parent wants to see their child laying in -- in a casket. and denita's life was -- it was snatched from under her, stolen. >> reporter: it seemed the whole town turned out on that january day in 2007. denita's close friend, edythe kearns, s...

Plan her daughter's wedding. now she was attending denita's funeral. >> no parent wants to see their child laying in -- in a casket. and denita's life was -- it was snatched from under her, stolen. >> reporter: it seemed the whole town turned out on that january day in 2007. denita's close friend, edythe kearns, spoke at the funeral. >> the home going was an emotional day. it was definitely some sadness. but we were trying to, you know, be happy and think about her spirit and life legacy and the way that she would want all of us to go on. but at that time, i think it was just too much and it w...