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Nato has been there since the late 1940s. it has been a great successful military alliance, and of course the americans have been very much the senior partner in all of this with us playing a role as number two. we've now got a position where out of 29 nations, only six of them are paying the basic membership fee of 2%. the rest, frankly, taking america for a ride, and the president is right to call them on this, but there's another dynamic at work, which is this. the european union now has protections for its own army, its own air force, its own navy, and the president of the european commiss...

Cases like this. what about allied assets? we were talking about the french and british playing a role. the british, they have two classes of submarines which are equipment you -- i would think if the britts do decide to participate, the french also have aircraft in the region based in or then u they have their own version of a long range missile they can fly. it's called the storm shadow. we give them the standoff distance to beat and not be kord about russian air defenses in and and targets. these are very, very capable

Yet eyewitness testimony contributed to 72% of the wrongful konconvictions, according to the innocence project a nonprofit legal and public policy group. often eyewitness mis misidentification is a playing a role in 72% of the wrongful convictions in dna testing nationwide and why are you shaking your head, jeff? >> well, don, it is frustrating that we can't come together and acknowledge the facts in the case case. because i don't think that we can move past it and turn the corner that we need to as a nation until we do. the justice department and the grand jury find ingsings are clear. i unde...

But again, it's the president's call, as you know, chris. >> there's a really interesting situation playing out in which this is now the most covered, the most watched fed chair race ever. and i wonder whether you think this tremendously powerful position is benefiting from more public attention? >> i think the more the public knows about this, the better, because i mean, we've seen some of the fed chairs. the one that chairs -- well, the one that stands out particularly was alan greenspan, who got to be well known, but clearly had very little focus on what he needed to focus on, and that was ...

The most watched fed chair race ever. and i wonder whether you think this tremendously powerful position is benefiting from more public attention? >> i think the more the public knows about this, the better, because i mean, we've seen some of the fed chairs. the one that chairs -- well, the one that stands out particularly was alan greenspan, who got to be well known, but clearly had very little focus on what he needed to focus on, and that was full employment. his focus was on deregulation and, secondarily, i think keeping inflation in check, and the damage he did with deregulation that marke...