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Alexander van der zwaan, what his testimony is now seen as false. >> wow. joyce, i didn't even mention that it appears this young man, our dutch lawyer, speaks russian and recorded some of his phone calls. just interesting plot points along the way. joyce, to your -- to the ears of a former fed, what does this tell you about the mueller investigation? >> mueller looks to be charging straight into the core of this investigation and determining whether there was collusion between the trump campaign and the russians as regards the election. and so the bread crumbs that julia's referring to are th...

A very strong and positive message that speaks to the real economic lives -- >> are they -- my question here is are they hitting that balance right w do you think? it seems saying too much russia. and i use a small d democratic institutions. our elections. so i do think that the democrats need to stay focussed on russia, but i do think as well they need to turn up the meet on the economic issues that confront the american people. >> and senator, i guess a different verngs of the question to you, when you look at all of those connections, those dots, the plot points, whatever you want to call t...

Suggestion of that. do you look at all of those plot points and say, there's a chance those dots could connect like that? >> well, i think the cia director said recently that he didn't see that there was collusion with the campaign and russia. and i would have just the hardest time ever believing that that could be the case, but i think the investigations into how russia was able to start finding -- or tapping lines or finding out classified information, i think that's a legitimate and very important bipartisan investigation that should be made. we need to know that our basic infrastructure is...

Ahold of it and see the plot points, it's potential competitors who could put out kind of a low-budget version, with the same plot points, and kind of diminish the film. so a lot of producers really worried about that, who are connected to that franchise. >> well, hollywood's furious about the decision to pull sony's "the interview," the movie. abc's jimmy kimmel used last night's opening monologue to rip into the studios that yanked the film. here he is. >> the nation's five biggest movie theater chains announced they would not allow the movie to be shown. and i think those theater owners sho...

Of "mandela, long walk to freedom" the final act of the leader's life played out offscreen. >> the founding president of our democratic nation has departed. >> mandela's two youngest daughters were at the premiere when they got the bad news. >> we want equal political rights. >> idriss elba will be the final leader to play the icon in his lifetime. but the opinion of his family looms large. >> they didn't want to see this sort of silver-haired fist pumping caricature of mr. mandela but wanted to see the man. the man behind the legend. >> the producer began asking the future south african presi...