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Are you not sure? is your view somewhere in the middle on this. when they ask that question, look at what came up. very interesting here. approve of trump's performance, that actually gets plurality support, 41%. that not sure option, nearly a quarter shows choez that coming from one very specific place on the political spruchlt it's those independents. this is the interesting thing. a third of them choose the not sure option. look at that disapprove option among independents. we saw it 60%. it comes way down. so what is that telling us? it's telling us among independents, when you push them o...

Media coverage. how is that going to shake out? the otherer question is how deeply held are these views? how deep are these reactions? given the media coverage we've seen, is this the kind of event that's going to linger with people. your trying to get at. another poll. new one. they gave votears third option. they said do you approve, disapprove or are are you not sure? and when they asked that question, look at what came up. approve of trump's performance. that actually gets plurality support 41%. that knocks the option nearly 1/4 chose that and the not sure option is coming from one place, ...

Policy and solutions, it's very hard to compete against pictures, audiotapes, and these very disturbing images that are now out there. and wire one're only going to se now. >> i take your point. i agree on the action. we have these polls. this struck me this week, some of the polling this week. i want to run this by the panel. the question here, as we said, when you poll the family separation, extremely unpopular. but when you poll the underlying policy, the trump administration has this zero tolerance policy. when you ask in the poll, the idea of arresting and jailing and holding anybody unti...

Jailing and holding them, you get support for that. then the second question here in this same poll, you've got the families crossing illegally. what do you do? and that idea of family detention, you hold -- this is true among democrats and republicans. that has plurality support. i imagine as this gets litigated in politics, these numbers will change and maybe the democratic position changes. when i looked at that, it surprised me and made me wonder maybe the politics of this, i think they're very clear on family separation. i'm not sure they're as clear when you move away from that. >> becau...

These trump voters. trump is a president with less than a plurality support. even in the key battleground states he failed to reach what obama did. the core of trump voters, we see in polling really doesn't move that much. what's been problematic for democrats is that 51% majority out there who voted for barack obama and quite frankly did not stay in line with hillary and protested the vote. they voted for george bush