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Look, we know some stuff but not all stuff. we have been told all week for the last eight days it could happen now, now, now, now, that it's one, that it's two, that it's medium, that it's short. what is it and when will it happen, will it happen. unless you know this gentleman, kim jong-un and what he wants, it's going to be guessing. >> governor huntsman, you recently referred to him as a crazy man. you said you don't know what he's capable of doing. that's obviously part of what's so alarming. but is he crazy or crazy like a fox? is he a rational actor? >> well, what we're seeing, i mean, t...

Your strategic capabilities. but i think number two, anderson, is it really gives a clarion call to the chinese government that we've got to start coordinating better than ever before, that our interests increasingly are aligned in terms of keeping northeast asia viable as a center for economic growth and vibrancy. we have probably soon to be two-thirds of our trade that goes right through the east china sea and across the pacific ocean and northeast asia is soon to be 20% of the world's gdp so aside from the strategic picture, the economics of the region are extremely important going forward....

Asked the chairman of the joint chiefs, general dempsey, and i thought what was really interesting was that general dempsey said he hadn't even seen that report. to me, that says how valid and how real is it if the chairman of the joint chiefs hasn't even seen it yet. plus anderson, as you know, it flies in the face of everything that all the other intelligence people have been telling us, the u.s. administration, both military and civilian, and all the independent scientists. i had a really in-depth interview with an incredible american scientist, former head of the los alamos laboratory, bee...

that has evolved. we can collect that intelligence through technical means pretty well. the problem is, it's very difficult to do exactly what barbara described without being able to penetrate, get into the facilities, look at what the nuclear development looks like. as you've suggested, anderson, we have been down this road very specifically in our run-up to our operations in iraq. we didn't have human intelligence on the ground in order to walk into these facilities that were acknowledged to have weapons of mass destruction. we have the similar situation here. >> well, i mean, are we talk...

Answer that. but this is -- given the seriousness of the threat, anderson, this is something that i think people do need to know about. and when you combine that with the fact that our vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has said that north korean missiles probably can reach the united states, that's a direct quote, and you put all that together, that is a serious issue that we need to deal with. and i think, anderson, we are dealing properly in the short term. we've beefed up the aegis missile destroyers around japan. they already had some there. and we have intercontinental ballistic ...