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Patients. i believe that's what this bill accomplishes. >> isn't that just a way of covering the reality of pulling money out of the system? look, you won't extend the tax credit for individuals to take it to the places of work. if they are getting care through work, allow them to group up and use those tax credits so they can collectively bring the price down. you know it makes sense. it reduces the dollar you are pulling out of the plan. so you didn't go for it. that is what is happening here. >> there will be increased tax credit availability right now if you have a subsidy great. premium g...

It. when there are older people paying more, he assured me that is unusual to him. they did not expect that. they expected those people to be subsidized. >> yeah, look. 87.5% were expected to be given subsidy. for exchanges, 23%. for federal exchange, 30%. well below what people anticipated, with the experts that advise the law anticipateed. there are perverse innocecentivo drive up cost. adding provision to coverage that a lot of people don't want. there is a tendency in here to not only increase premium because of that, but to also increase deductible so people have a higher out of pocket ex...

Stronger preventive care. >> reporter: the insurance company suggested a new plan. he said they did not make it clear what the add benefits would be but they did make it clear it would cost 27% more, along with a higher deductible. >> to say we're having to cancel it. it is not obama care come plinlt and it will come more. you'll have a higher deductible and a higher out of pocket expense and not really better benefits shocked me. and then it became irritating. >> reporter: even with the president's quote/unquote fix today. >> those who got cancellations notices do deserve and receive an apolo...

With infection. >> because of the affordable care that forced you to make re forms? >> we have been making the reforms forever but this amped it up. >> how about the down side? create one scenario where, okay, we don't love it. consumers need to make sure the premiums, that doesn't cover everything. the premiums -- >> what were you able to do that i walk in, get a three-day mayo complete workovers. what can't you give me now for the same thing? >> there may be more out of pocket expense for you. you always would and will get what you need. if this doesn't cover care you may have to cover it uh...

Young men, as one who has gone through prostate cancer, you can get this with no out of pocket expense. these are things to prevent people from getting sick or to at least detect how sick they might be. this creepy is beyond the words. and i'm surprised that even general managers of tv stations would even think about running this. >> but they are. and let the tell you something. in case you weren't scared enough already, here's some more on the koch brother who is are funding this. they pledged to spend $60 million personally to defeat president obama. they host semi-annual conventions with ri...