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That is and again i'm going to spend my time focused on things i do know. >> in response they issued a statement. of course it isn't a choice. >> joining us now is a professor of english. is this something that it is -- in scott walker's words it is not even an issue for him to be involved in? >> i think in his life he's been rather involved in it and in terms of people who his family knows he is a man in his 40s. of course he's thought achblt i don't know whether he's a reader or not but he at least heard pod casts. he northeastknows what he thinks. when you say i don't know in that way, that...

Since the philadelphia race speech during the 2007 primary campaign where he had to really explicitly address racial inequality in this country. he did that in this little-noticed radio interview last week before the charleston eulogy. >> and it was one of the the most downloaded of marc maron's pod casts. let's play a little of that. this is him just talking about the learning curve. >> it's all happened. i've been through this. i've screwed up. i've been in the barrel tumbling down niagara falls. and i.e. merged emerged and i lived. and that is such a liberating feeling. >> liberated feeling...

>> i want to address one other thing very quickly. all of the emotions, the pathos of show business, everyone experiences. i think one of the reasons my podcast is popular is people who just listen, to hear somebody that they respected or appreciated in the media or entertainment, sort of persevere through struggles is very connecting. and i think the thing that is happening with pod casts now is -- weird, i'm talking like a politician. to address your previous thought, is that i think with cereal becoming popular, a podcast that became popular, it became huge, i personally i like to listen, i...

Thing very quickly. all of the emotions, the pathos of show business, everyone experiences. i think one of the reasons my podcast is popular is people who just listen, to hear somebody that they respected or appreciated in the media or entertainment, sort of persevere through struggles is very connecting. and i think the thing that is happening with pod casts now is -- weird, i'm talking like a politician. to address your previous thought, is that i think with cereal becoming popular, a podcast that became popular, it became huge, i personally i like to listen, i just don't have time to listen...

I think one of the reasons my podcast is popular is people who just listen to hear somebody that they respected or appreciated in the media or entertainment, sort of persevere through struggles is very connecting. and i think the thing that is happening with pod casts now is -- weird, i'm talking like a politician. to address your previous thought, is that i think with cereal becoming popular, a podcast that became popular, it became huge i personally i like to listen i just don't have time to listen to podcasts. the thing was people ask us about what did you think about cereal? now people are...