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Australia, they've done it before. it is closer. if they go to france who is an accredited representation it will take some hours to get the material to paris, to download and it to get to the interpretation done. i would guess either france or australia will take the lead. until you have the black boxes, you cannot really rule out what cause igs may be. we think weather may be a factor. in many of the crashes, human error plays a role or mechanical failure plays a role. what about foul play? can that be ruled out at this poeb point? >> i think nothing can be ruled out yet. especially listenin...

Introspection. they will obviously be looking at what caused the pilots to do what this did. once the final report is known, you have as an airline, any airline does you say, where did we fail if we failed at all? for an airline that has grown so fast as airasia, that will be the key moment. because the reputation will be damaged. but let me tell you, there are a lot of airlines in asia that have truly dreadful reputations. >> some have been black listed as we've seen. this route that you had, that this plane was taking it is a busy route. you had six other flights nearby when the airasia flig...

Big picture as far as how the plane essentially fell out of the sky and that's going to be critical when they need to piece together this full picture of exactly what happened on sunday. >> when the black boxes are committee recovered -- and i hope it's a when not an if -- i think the expectation is that the wreckage can be located at some point where do they go for analysis? which country takes the lead? >> we know that the french equivalent of the ntsb have two investigators on the ground there. the ntsb here in the u.s. they don't have anyone on the ground there. it's safe to say that most ...

Everything on the surface to whatever is down on the sea floor? >> oh yeah. that's certainly a key situation they're trying to figure out at this point. david, the rescuers or searchers have found some debris. can you even tell how long it will take to locate this black box? >> no. in some cases, if that's the shadow that is an airplane that was seen. it can be a day or two. if they've got a search with the pingers and they're searching a relatively confined area it might be a week's time. i don't expect it to go much longer than a week. it is very possible that it could. but i'm hoping and pr...