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But now the trucks waiting for the ships containing my goods is now off-schedule, right? >> exactly. this tisystem sounds on the one hand on the supply chain like the simplest idea, we're really just talking about moving boxes from point a to point b. but in practice it turns out to be devilishly complex. and the system works quite well under normal circumstances. and it's built to operate a little bit like runners in a relay race. i run my lap. i hand the baton to you, you run a lap and so on. but if when i finish my lap, you're not there to take the baton, it doesn't matter how fast the next...

Other events in the icu, from places like -- it wasn't a heroic effort that we do for a living. i was just a point there for a matter of a few weeks and then somebody spared me. but this is what's happening in the progressive militarization of our covid response. we are using military at sits as we talked about, rachel, to actually fill short gaps. because the biggest limiting step right now is ana -- the ventilators or bets. it's on stuff bets. it's the availability, so we can see a lot more of this critically whole patients from point a to point b. hopefully this is we don't see a lot more o...

>> absolutely. you know, we were actually stationed in p southern ohio. but we were actually physically moving patient that's needed ecmo from places like tennessee all twit cleveland clinic. it was a heroic effort on part of people that did this for a living. i just deployed there for a matter of a few weeks. but this is what is happening in progressive military of our covid response. we're using military assets as we talked about, rachael, to actually fill short gaps because the biggest limiting steph is not lack of ventilators, it's the advanced therapies. you'll see a lot of this movement,...

Do you share that sense of real urgency? i do. i absolutely do. and i think there's a pretty strong scientific consensus around this now, on exactly this point — a, that it's an emergency. words like "crisis" are entirelyjustified. david attenborough, as ever, has articulated it very well when he said, "what we do now and in the next few years "will materially shape the next few thousand years." i think that is right. i would also say that climate change is one of the principal causes now of biodiversity loss. it's probably the third main cause globally of biodiversity loss. and, of course, ...

Around this planet of ours, do you share that sense of real urgency? i do. i absolutely do. and i think there's a pretty strong scientific consensus around this now, on exactly this point — a, that it's an emergency. words like "crisis" are entirelyjustified. david attenborough, as ever, has articulated it very well when he said, "what we do now and in the next few years "will materially shape the next few thousand years." i think that is right. i would also say that climate change is one of the principal causes now of biodiversity loss. it's probably the third main cause globally of biodive...