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Was it a lot of people given that we know a number of people circulate through mar-a-lago on a daily basis. who exactly got their hands on this information? and the fact there was classified information right next to nonclassified, you know, the intel officials and former intel officials i talk to say that's just 101 no-no they're not supposed to be put together at any point. >> nick, to the point barr made as well he called it jawboning. there's been a tremendous deference of the former president to try to negotiate in terms of returning what is posed to be the property of the government. the...

Laund guy? what does he want? >> i don't know what he wants. i think in some ways the barr story has -- is a more complicated story than we think in terms of in the end trump was really upset with him because he wouldn't go to the lengths he wanted him to go to. up until that point barr did things that trump really wanted. around michael flynn and the dropping of that case and stuff related to the russia investigation. what does barr want? i'm not sure. i think he's clearly disillusioned with trump. he obviously think that is trump went way, way, way too far in this thing. has it manifest itse...

Committee. she's testifying. you see it -- well, i just talked about barr. >> yeah. >> i mean there's nobody i was more disgusted by, a man of the law acting the way that he did during the trump administration. it is fascinating to see where they all drew their lines. >> yeah. >> and there is no doubt that at some point barr checked out. said, "enough" and started pushing back on trump and let's be really blunt here, started pushing back on trump at the time we needed to do it. as a country we needed him to do it the most as a country when actually a peaceful transfer of power was on the line....

Not seen fraud to a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election. >> the president is furious. he calls barr over to meet with him and the two get in a shouting match. >> barr told trump they had looked in to these things that trump asked about and there was nothing there. and trump got aggitated and he said, this is not -- at one point barr described giuliani and his ilk as clowns, and trump said maybe but would got foff o it. >> there were others that were aiding in the dirty work of subverting the election. >> they bring a lawsuit arguing that the ballots from four sta...