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Similar accounts before. where does that leave us? as you said, david briggs, the president maintains 80 some odd support among this party. and his strategy seem it's to be keeping that as solid as he can and damn the consequences as it were with republicans and independents. >> and the testimony and i want to ask you about his cooperation. is there still the potential for a reduced sentence? and therefore, if he's proven to be lying again to congress, presumably, there will be no assistance with his sentence? >> he has every reason to tell the truth today? >> my point being, does he, as chris...

Always has the latest. >> as i've often said, you could try to teach a goat how to climb a tree but you are better off hiring a squirrel. actually i've never said that before until now. that was had by the republican senator john kennedy. you see him there on the left and quoting the republican senator who was trying to explain one plan pushed by chuck schumer there. his point being, we know a squirrel could climb a tree trust as we know a wall or a barrier of any kind will provide some kind of defense, he said the plan would not get the job done on border security because it would open the go...

>> as i've often said, you could try to teach a goat how to climb a tree, but you are better off hiring a squirrel. actually i've never said that before until now.ri that was said by the republican senator, john kennedy. you see him there on the left and i'm quoting the republican senator kennedy who was trying to explain one plan pushed by chuck schumer there. kennedy's point being, we know a squirrel could climb a tree just as we know a wall or a barrier of any kind will provide some a kind of defense, he said the schumer plan would not get the job done on border security because it would op...

Could be more fullsome. >> it could be depends on what he puts in there. as you see, he committed very forcefully to as much transparency as the law would allow and that last phrase is important. that's not a dodge. mr. mueller is investigating things that apparently, apparently, touch on some national security concerns and he may well have access to classified information and classified evidence, and i think when mr. barr was saying there may be things i can't disclose because the law won't allow me as long as they were classified, he was leaving himself room to make those decisions. >> you t...

Otherwise. but i want to -- >> unless you're a federal worker. one of the 800,000. >> that's true. but you might, it just is not the same, this is the most unusual week of the year, where people, a lot of people are off, and might not have trials scheduled, trips to national parks scheduled. but my point being, i don't want to negate in any way the toughness that this is on federal workers, who may be in a tough position. i want to go back to schumer's speech. because he had two parts in it. one that was a strong argument, one that was a weaker one. saying what people rely on, or setting the p...