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These convictions being on top of each other. i think that romney may well have gotten a four or five point bump. we may never see it because it's already eroding as others start to speak. >> american taxpayers paying a fortune for the conventions and both parties have raised a billion dollars or will. and this f.there are no undecides to rule and they're wrapping up the base,. >> i mean look. conventions are obsolete. the platform doesn't -- with the first thing that went. there is no key that believes his convention is thinking he's going run on his own issues. only reason to have the party ...

These convictions being on top of each other. i think that romney may well have gotten a four or five point bump. we may never see it because it's already eroding as others start to speak. >> american taxpayers paying a fortune for the conventions and both parties have raised a billion dollars or will. and this f.there are no undecides to rule and they're wrapping up the base,. >> i mean look. conventions are obsolete. the platform doesn't -- with the first thing that went. there is no key that believes his convention is thinking he's going run on his own issues. only reason to have the party ...

These convictions being on top of each other. i think that romney may well have gotten a four or five point bump. we may never see it because it's already eroding as others start to speak. >> american taxpayers paying a fortune for the conventions and both parties have raised a billion dollars or will. and this f.there are no undecides to rule and they're wrapping up the base,. >> i mean look. conventions are obsolete. the platform doesn't -- with the first thing that went. there is no key that believes his convention is thinking he's going run on his own issues. only reason to have the party ...

But at root, this is a question of values and question of policyes. it is not just, does that person look like me, is it, do they believe what i believe and do i trust them. and an interesting poll, asking latino voters, rnc featured mark why rubio and susana martinez, did that give you a more favorable or less favorable and 60% of latinos said it had no impact. 7% said less favorable to a little bit of an impact but i think at root it is the values. >> and romney got a four point bump from latinos post convention. which i think is interesting. steve? >> i tend to agree. i think is something t...

>> there is one tracking poll out today and inicates a 5 point bump. he went in the convention two points behind obama . how's about three points ahead. that is only one tracking poll. i don't think anybody will get the bounce they used to. back starting in recently as 2004, you would have an outparty and the party that didn't have the incumbent president in july and it was a full month until the incumbent party held theirs and it was time for people to listen to thes and momentum to build up. with the republicans they held it and ended it thursday night and they are already here in charlotte ...