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President can claim victory regardless of whether you have denuclearization. i think it is the one area where the president thus far has gotten some bipartisan support. americans say, yeah, he should meet with kim jong-un and that alone with a victory. it alone say victory to get those three hostages. >> verification, let's say the summit takes place and there's a lot of pomp and circumstance and it is a moment of history. how would you ever verify, negotiate first and verify anything approaching denuclearization? there's reporting this week that they have another secret site underground, i'm ...

>> i guess the other question, too, whether the president can claim victory regardless of whether you have denuclearization. it's the one area the president thus far has gotten some bipartisan support. americans say he should meet with kim jong-un. that would alone be a victory, a victory to get the three hostages. >> i think verification will be -- let's say the summit takes place and there's a lot of pomp and circumstance and it is a moment of history, how would you ever verify -- negotiate first and verify denuclearization? there's reporting this week they have another secret site undergrou...