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Maybe out in front a little of what was actually happening in the country. >> so we're a terrific team. >> this is true. >> there had been by that point hundreds of buddy cop shows. but these buddies were women. it had never been done before. >> i didn't go after this job because i couldn't find anything else. all right. i did not come here because i needed some kind of work to help pay the orthodontist. this means something to me. >> what the hell are we talking about here? >> we didn't even realize this was going to be such a big deal. and strangely, all these guys would say to us, well, yea...

What was actually happening in the country. >> so we're a terrific team. >> this is true. >> there had been by that point hundreds of buddy cop shows. but these buddies were women. it had never been done before. >> i didn't go after this job because i couldn't find anything else. all right. i did not come here because i needed some kind of work to help pay the orthodontist. this means something to me. >> what the hell are we talking about here? >> we didn't even realize this was going to be such a big deal. and strangely, all these guys would say to us, well, yeah. i mean, it's a good script, ...

>> "cagney and lacey" was huge. that there would be two women and they had a serious job and they solved crimes and they were out on the streets, they were tough. that was emblematic or maybe out in front a little of what was happening in the country. >> so we're a terrific team. >> there had been by that point hundreds of buddy cop shows. but these buddies were women. that had never been done before. >> i didn't go after this job because i couldn't find anything else. all right? i did not come here because i needed some kind of work to help pay the orthodontist. this means something to me. >>...

Sometimes ambition in a woman is considered to be a dirty word, unfortunately. >> i don't hear the female voices reverberating in the halls of power in this business. >> i'm surprised there aren't more shows about women talking about who they are. >> it seems to be an area almost impossible to break through. >> i think the '80s were the era when women were being looked at with a little skepticism, but definitely with more acceptability. you could see the door opening. but it wasn't wide open. >> "cagney and lacey" was huge. that there would be two women and they had a serious job and they solv...

About who they are. >> directing seems to be an area that is almost impossible to break through. >> i think the '80s were the era when women were being looked at with a little skepticism, but definitely with more acceptability. you could see the door opening. but it wasn't wide open. >> "cagney and lacey" was huge. that there would be two women and they had a serious job and they solved crimes and they were out on the streets, they were tough. that was emblematic or maybe in front a little of what was happening in the country. >> so we're a terrific team. >> this is true. >> there had been by ...