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They were credit. they were money. >> that idea of human beings being money, being actual currency, talk about what that looks like. you talk about it indepth in the tempt. >> well, you know, an economist tells through are three categories of -- three things that something has to -- three classes you have to satisfy to be money. means of exchange, retains the value over time. unit of account. slaves were often used to settle a debt when there was no gold or silver around. so they were a means of exchange. they weren't the most common money. you could always sell a slave if you have to. retains...

>> i think i've got past it, but, you know, some of those memories out there were nothing that i ever want to remember again. the sheriff told any of us if we wanted to talk to somebody, it was there, and i know it would be. i think that i can probably just deal with it myself. or i guess just hope that i can deal with it myself.

War? breeding, systemic breeding used to destroy black families and to increase the capital of the ruling slave holder class. it's a part of the american story that often falls by the way side but a new book places it at the very center of our nation's history. joining me now is ned sublet, co-author of the book "the american slave coast: the history of the slave breeding industry." thank you for being here. this text created a circumstance for one of my producers who was reading through it to just write across it, nothing is clean. everything is slavery, right? just that sense that the centra...

>> as soon as i got the call that night, i came home immediately and got dressed and headed out to my car so i could respond to the scene. we keep all of our gear in our cars, and i know where my weapon's system is, and as soon as you open up my trunk, this is what you see. this is a remington 700308. has a loophole scope on it, this is our weapon of choice as a sniper for the special response team. >> this is a millimeter. this weapon has a single burst. but also has a three-round burst. and also a full auto. all those were used that night at this incident. this is the ar-15.

Officer or somebody who was trained with a weapon. i would feel more comfortable. >> the teacher? >> if the teacher was trained in the use of that weapon and had access to it, i would be much more comfortable if they had one than if they didn't. >> kindergarten teachers. >> i think, you know what? the congresswoman said is true. this is a message about opposition to gun control. it comes at a moment we're having this debate because of the shooting. and he says this in dramatic ways. he says it in ways which just got him a bunch of clips on tv. but he is saying a policy which is deeply rooted i...