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Our normal rules of law, undermine his own department of justice, undermine or justice system. this is unprecedented even in watergate, nobody went so far as those people that you played at the beginning of this segment who are really calling in to question the entire integrity and fairness of our legal system when there is absolutely no basis to question it. everything that mueller has done has been aboveboard. it's been proper. the indictments have been proper. the investigative techniques he has used have all been proper techniques, have been overseen by the deputy attorney general, the nor...

Mueller's team before michael flynny plea dae came out and at the time we were hearing from sources that it was simply to make sure he didn't have any exins do you think there was more to that interview that mueller had with kushner? >> i think there's absolutely more and i think that anyone who has spoken with mueller to this point should be very afraid. at this point mueller now has a key witness, as has been stated by the other and iist and can ge him firsthand eyewitness accounts of as light to an fbi agent is now in danger of being

Fbi. there is a lot to look out and a lot that's still need to be done and the special counsel team, they don't have their full team yet. they're expecting to move more offices and need more space. their budget has not been finalized. we don't know. tall prosecu-- all prosecutors lawyers are going to be assigned to special counsel office. >> right. there is still those private interviews that took place and we know at some point mueller and his team, this is outside of capitol hill will be interviewing jared kushner and michael flynn and all of those things will fold into the equation, too. >>...

The day when the mueller investigation is all said and done. >> well, talking to mueller is different. i'm saying like deposed in a way where we would find out about it. >> oh. well, it seems to me if mueller does do as jim comey suggested yesterday that he sort of expects him to do, which is to take up an obstruction of justice investigation here, it seems to me that at some point mueller is going to need to depose donald trump. >> so what is your big take-away from yesterday, david? >> well, this is one, seeing now an aggressive push back and perhaps this is the trump team trying to say mr. ...

Efficient workman-like job on prosecuting flynn and we'll go from there. >> how will they get flynn to talk? the prosecutor? >> you just close the vice. you keep coming at him and getting all of the evidence. and there will be a lot of it. there will be the payments, the ones you mention. there's at least two more. there will be all kinds of money transfers and a lot of evidence. if we can just slow down and not get so excited in this town -- >> you're scary. i'm thinking of the movie "casino" where the guy has the vice around the guy's head. what is the vice around the head of general flynn r...