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Seen in months. mostly it's been a 2 point race. barack obama or mitt romney could still win the election and nobody is going to win by anything approaching 8 points. ohio does matter. ohio is an incredibly close state. and our latest numbers we show president obama still leading by one point in ohio. and that is well above where he should be performing in a close national race. it is the fire wall. >> bill: okay, when you say well above what he should be performing, you have to take into account the auto deal in ohio. it's a very specific, the president's policies toward the u.s. auto compani...

Mostly it's been a 2 point race. barack obama or mitt romney could still win the election and nobody is going to win by anything approaching 8 points. ohio does matter. ohio is an incredibly close state. and our latest numbers we show president obama still leading by one point in ohio. and that is well above where he should be performing in a close national race. it is the fire wall. >> bill: okay, when you say well above what he should be performing, you have to take into account the auto deal in ohio. it's a very specific, the president's policies toward the u.s. auto companies benefited a l...

By lens 2% of the vote. it was obviously very close. jon: this is far from a sure thing for the obama campaign this time around. >> far from a sure thing. jon: what are the big issues? >> the big issues, what's happening in colorado is what is happening everywhere. people are worried about jobs, people are worried about the deficit, the debt. i mean we had a poll out four days ago that still has romney and obama at a statistical tie. romney gained 2 points from a poll that "denver post" did two weeks ago. he made gains among college educators. he is up five points among college educators. when...

>> the best parallel is the sharron engle harry reid race in 2010. if you look at his poll numbers and standings at the start of the year, should never won re-election. he got the one opponent in the entire state of nevada he was capable of beating, even then a four or five point race. claire mccaskill looked gone until a month ago, she has drawn the one opponent she could beat. >> part of the challenge that the republican party has is this tea party movement, far right, movement to the far right, it has undermined their party fundamentally. not the national republicans. it's that you cannot w...

Will be three or four points so what he does now and what she does right now sort of on the issues and generating turnout really important in these battleground states because it's not going to be an eight-point race in florida, it's not going to be an eight point race in north carolina and nevada. >> there's a couple things we're learning in the biographies of both these candidates. trump, we're getting focused on his biography, but it's killing the message that could be coming as a protest over trade and war and a couple other things. hillary clinton, trump is doing the best favor in the wor...