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There is massive voter turnout. in the absence of massive voter turnout, they will not pay a price. and the reason being is because the base will stick together. the base is solidly behind donald trump. that's point one. point two, we talk about it, but we probably don't talk about it enough -- gerrymandering. a lot of these congressional districts are gerrymandered districts that give republicans an advantage. that happened when we allowed the republicans to take over the different state legislatures and the governorships, right, across the country, and the census. that's another important th...

You the first bite at the apple. >> wow, i get to start? where to start? there was a lot there. he mentioned that u.s. troops would remain in syria to protect oil areas that have been secured. those are mostly in eastern syria that have been secured for a long time. he didn't say how many troops. that's point one. point two, this was a real remarkable trump of trump making a clean break from the pentagon, a clean break from the generals who tried to keep him educated in in line with what the national defense strategies were to keep troops in the middle east. he's conflated every middle eastern...

Indictments of those two giuliani associates a few weeks ago by the u.s. attorney here in manhattan. elliott williams with me our legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. listen to this statement that the doj put out over the weekend. quote, when mr. benz kau zi and lawyers met with mr. giuliani they were not aware of any investigations and would not have met with him had they known. this is still an ongoing investigation. not only is it incredibly rare to hear from the doj on this, how significant is it they are publicly distancing themselves interest giuliani? >> it's a few things. numbe...

>> jon: congressman hyams is saying republicans are whineing too much. >> what is happening is there is no way for the republicans to defend the actions of the president here. what the chief of staff mick mulvaney said. no way for them to defend that behavior. as a result they're attacking the process. >> jon: what do you think about that? >> well two things. one of the opening statements that have been released and the transcribed -- there was no linkage whatsoever between security assistance dollars and any type of investigation. that's point one. point two on process, this is not your av...

Nobody committed a fowlerly -- >> the president is trying to do that. that's exactly the president's goal of the investigation. >> i understand that. that's point one. point two is, they are eager to draw a line between what they are doing and what rudy giuliani is doing. we were told over the weekend that the president, or, that the attorney general was angry and disappointed to find out what giuliani has been up to and what was said in this call and that his name was lumped in with giuliani in the known call. and finally justices said barr never knew about this phone call, this was not one o...