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You have to wonder is there a similar example made of shulkin, made of pruitt? there's not an indication that's going to be the case but the thing with trump we've learned he's with you until he's not with you. so that could change at any moment. it's interesting, too, you have a republican members of congress saying shulkin should go. saying look this is what trump ran on, what you just played from the clip in 2016. this is what he ran on and if it means anything, he has to go. >> rick, it's nice to sit in the pointy end of the plane, the seats are wider, it's nicer. but you know government t...

To communicate a dialogue with the russians. although in my experience i found that to be very unsatisfactory and pretty much a one-way street. because the russians are, at least, transactional. i do hope that director pompeo when he did meet with them didn't give them a pass as far as the russian interference in our election. he was meeting with the leaders of which that were at the pointy end of the stick if you will in orchestrating the interference in our election. russians are bad, but we need dialogue with them. if we can find ways to work with them, fine. i never did. but you've got to ...

Understand what happened there, we have one side and we will now have the other side. one quick final comment, don, remember this is why i'm with the white house and pentagon. in the united states, in las vegas, nevada, you had cameras everywhere. you had law enforcement everywhere, and days more than a weekend we're still changing a timeline that you would think you would know in 24 hours. this stuff is not easy and can't even get it right in the united states sometimes. >> i think it's absolutely right what phil said. niger is a very isolated country, doesn't have the same infrastructure we ...

This signals for the entire communications department moving forward? >> i think it goes back to what i was saying earlier. in private, we can yell at each other, we can have real disagreements, you can storm out of the room, apparently there was a story going around about general kelly sending two staffers out of the room to hash it out when they were talking about some trade policy with china. but once you present those various options to the president, he makes the decision, that's it. you move forward and you support the president in his views. not only just supporting the president, but t...

But if we feel comfortable with the information and we do the diligence on it, then, you know, we put things in the paper that we believe to be factual. >> ashley, people in and around the white house are trying to envision friday's flight halfway around the world. the president gets the pointy end of the airplane. he gets a bedroom and den up there. there is a conference room at mid deck, the press is in the back. but in the center of the aircraft, pretty close quarters, white house staff: disparate elements of the white house staff who you cover 24/7, one can only imagine how long a flight t...