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Department employees who are relieved of duty. i know you can't say whether you expect to charge them as there is an ongoing investigation. how influential has the body cameras been in your decision-making process? >> well, i mean, obviously it's a key source of information. both the body cam video, and the video from the pole cam, the static cam. we had remarkably good quality footage in this case. more so than most cases. but that's not all that we're looking at. i want to emphasize that the process was pretty thorough, even though we acted quickly. we brought in immediately the tennessee bu...

For this particular officer. everybody on that scene needs to be accountable wearing a uniform, whether they were police, fire or emt, i see everybody as being complicit with this pattern and practice of failing to intervene and certainly violence. >> okay. so a couple of things. hemphill's attorney says that he was at the first scene but not at the second scene. that second scene is the view that we saw from that pole cam. but you say that all of the officials, emts, the officers need to be held accountable. does that mean firing all of them? charging all of them? what's your view? >> well, c...

>> well, there's no justification for the use of force in this case. in fact, from the very beginning, the officers were acting in a manner that was inconsistent with any training that i am aware of. they began yelling at the individual, pulling him out of the car. if anything, mr. nichols was the person trying to de-escalate the situation. it was not the police officers. and after they pepper sprayed and tased him and he took off running, then it became very personal because they were upset and angry because he had the nerve to run away. although, he was running because he was in fear of his ...

Pictures. and as it turned out, it was video which captured some of the last moments of his life and also some of the worst moments of his life, not somebody talking, a silent video for some of that when you see friday the pole cam, but he was a guy that his mom said was a free spirit. and his friends said he didn't conform to what society sees a black man should be. he did not conform to any sort of stereotype, that he was his own man, and as one person put it, he was a gentleman. jessica? >> thank you so much for really explain

Him in the face. i mean, this goes on minute after minute while officers keep his hands restrained behind his body. chief ramsey, we have had about 24 hours to absorb the horror of all of this. what are your thoughts? what lessons are you drawing from all of this? >> i haven't seen anything at all, i didn't last night and still haven't, that would justify the behavior of the officers at all. they were acting way outside of any training, policy, or values or anything associated with policing. so there is absolutely nothing good to say. this whole situation started at a very high level. they esc...