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About police calls and police contacts, the reporting we've had both the post and cnn and others have reported talking to his classmates talked about him with odd behavior dating back to middle school and beyond that. so this is clearly -- there has been a lot of conversation about whether or not someone should have said something sooner. what seems to be the case is that many people were saying things very early on often, whether the fbi contact regarding the youtube comments, but even the behavioral discipline at school and classmates seeing him as someone who was perhaps a threat. it does r...

This is the middle of the day. it's lunchtime. you know, so you would have patrons in a number of those businesses up and down that street. and so that would be the concern of the police right now, that they may have reported already, hostages, but that's what the worry would be. >> so if there are hostages, what's the standard operating procedure? what are the police doing in a situation like this? say there's a hostage or two inside that restaurant. >> well, a number of things. one, try to debit pf identify w person in there? any way to establish communication with the person? how many, if a...

An oregon federal court ruled that actually practicing that, making that -- a connection between i.c.e. and local law enforcement is actually unconstitutional, and race a result you're putting a lot of these cities in a quagmire and it's unconstitutional, joy, because what happens when a person is being held, they are held indefinitely and oftentimes without legal protection and in cases they have discovered even u.s. citizens have been held indefinitely against their will until they can actually find whether or not this person is documented or not. >> yeah, you know, michelle bernard, bill de...

Loud. let me ask withdrew this. tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director former police officer said to me yesterday, he was very upset to hear what some of the rally yesterday here neill, were saying about we don't need the police, we can police ourselves. he said it's basically anarchy. do you believe in large part this is a community that does want to work side by side with the police and those voices are just a minority? >> well just on -- pay attention to the person who's chanting. those aren't the sentiments of the residents of baltimore city. that's not realistic. we need the police to...

Bricks at the law. officers who are trying to protect and defend that city for the law-abiding people. people at the orioles game yesterday were held hostage due to some of the rioting going on. those are the people that need to be thought of right now. not the rioters and looters and the quicker -- the sooner that baltimore police can get their arms around this thing and restore order -- that's job one right now restore order and don't worry about the optics. >> we have a local -- >> expect to be reasonable. >> we have a local reporter on the scene from wbff. >> -- in a confrontation with pol...