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Maybe something more, violence of some sort, who here in this room feels comfortable picking up 911 and dialing the cops? whoa, whoa. and how many people -- how many people don't feel comfortable? can i talk to you for a second? >> sure. >> tell me your name. >> dimitri roberts. >> you were a chicago police officer for a while? >> i was, many years. >> i thought what ja'mal said was interesting. one of the things that ends up happening when these conversations happen is you watch the resources flow towards police departments. right? i think, frankly, police departments that i've covered around...

Up 911 and dialing the cops? whoa, whoa. and how many people -- how many people don't feel comfortable? can i talk to you for a second? >> sure. >> tell me your name. >> dimitri roberts. >> you were a chicago police officer for a while? >> i was, many years. >> i thought what ja'mal said was interesting. one of the things that ends up happening when these conversations happen is you watch the resources flow towards poce departments. righ i think, frankly, police departments that i've covered around the country are very good pat getting those resources. the argument police departments make is c...

Said, we need to find 21 s century solutions for 21st century problems. i have probably about four or five different ways to communicate without going through a phone company without doing total encrypted messages and literally, we have law enforcement and intelligence operating in the dark. we have no idea if these guys were communicating through different apps that makes it impossible to the law enforcement to find and i think the fbi had been advocating to find a solution to this. unfortunately, most of the laws that we have are designed to 20th century problems, not to 21 s century technol...

Area that didn't support policing goes to the war on terror. this policing problem affects every single politician republican and democrat. >> but i want to lay the blame a little bit more at the front door of the clinton white house because it wasn't just an ideological question there were structural incentives to cities to police in this way. >> absolutely. >> and i think that gets lost in our sense of like were they good or bad mayors well they were mayors looking for revenue. as we saw in the ferguson report revenue ends up -- >> the spigot was turned on. >> at 1600 pennsylvania. >> and co...

Eastern. join jimmy kimmenlkimmel seth myers, in a special hosted by our own jake tapper. cnn special report david letterman says good night, tuesday night 9:00 p.m. eastern only right here on cnn. over the past few weeks no story has dominated the headlines more than the issues of police shootings. our next guest says this is not on african-american problem, this is not a policing problem, this is an american problem and we need to do something about it. we'll talk to him about it next. the world is filled with air. but for people with copd sometimes breathing air can be difficult. if you h...