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Places that we have been. brian: charles you say america is race crazy. we should be american and then whatever your race or heritage is. >> when you are so focused on race, you are not going to solve any problems. there are policing problems and education and income gaps. but you are not going to solve them by saying it's all systemic racism. it's not all. i am not saying what the percentage is. is it 2? is it 0? -- is it 20? i know it's not 100. when you talk about getting back to it, we need to focus on things that will work. think about what they propose.

Places that we have been. brian: charles you say america is race crazy. we should be american and then whatever your race or heritage is. >> when you are so focused on race, you are not going to solve any problems. there are policing problems and education and income gaps. but you are not going to solve them by saying it's all systemic racism. it's not all. i am not saying what the percentage is. is it 2? is it 0? -- is it 20? i know it's not 100. when you talk about getting back to it, we need to focus on things that will work. think about what they propose.

The policing problems you discussed early in the show. the enfact that we put such massive effort into policing and into -- into militarized police. and less into jobs and mental health. then, we need massive -- then, we need to address the fact that these institutions. that there are these large gaps, between whites and blacks, because of a racist history. if you erase that racist history from our schools, then we can't address these problems. we can't actually do policy. you say to people, look, we have to change these practices because the practice of sending lots of police officers into ne...

That, you know, we need to be taught the truth about this country early on, right? as young as grade school, as early as grade school. why do they fear the truth of a history being taught more widely? >> we need it because we can't -- we can't do policy. if we want to really address the problems in this country with our massive prison system, the policing problems you discussed earlier in the show, the fact that we put such massive effort into policing and into militarized police and less into jobs and mental health, then we need to address the fact that these institutions -- that there are th...

And i think for voters, no matter what their heritage, ethnicity, skin color, the idea the more economic opportunities, the problem for mayor pete buttigieg, he is in a tough job, spent a lot of time in south bend, the problem, he says, we should, we should, we should, he is the mayor of a town that has substantial racial strife that had big policing problems that has alienated the african-american community, and to sit there and talk about, well, we showed in the future decriminalize marijuana, well, mayor pete, what have you been doing in your town, that is a fair attack. >> raymond: juan, i...