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Was going to do the senate or the presidential run. they certainly seem to understand that's a possible threat right there. >> he's more progressive values. he's also more centrist policy-wise than sanders. you think it would hurt sanders more than biden or amy klobuchar? >> sanders had the leftover base from 2016. it's not a traditional campaign tactic he uses. i think that may be more than a policy alignment. >> so sorry to interrupt. watch this. he's starting to make the remarks. this is live in iowa. >> thank you for being with us and welcoming me to your community. this is the first stop ...

Jillian: the president doing what he can for judge moore. a soundbite from the president's rally in pennsylvania. >> we can't afford to have a liberal democrat who is completely controlled by nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. his name is jones and he is there total puppet and everybody knows it. he will never vote for us. jillian: the president staking out a claim that we shouldn't focus on the sexual allegations but on political expediency, policy alignment, get a republican in the seat. >> that might be the decisive factor, trump is popular in alabama and that will swing a lot of voters. jilli...

Position for anyone and i think the problem with the party writ large with the g.o.p. right now, and something that everyone is grappling with from mcconnell to lindsey graham, is once we do that, if we make that hard decision that we're going -- for the sake of policy alignment we're going to hold our noses and vote for moore, what does this portend long-term? we get him in the seat. what do we sacrifice down the road a year or five years from now? >> melissa: guy made the point that that may not be the best long-term political decision because roy moore will be used as the face of the party ...

Another drama. seems unclear whether, whatever problem needs solved will be solved by excommunicating steve bannon from the white house. and, you know, i think bannon in general, you're right, might have some policy alignment with kelly on certain issues, but the biggest problem, organizationally, is that he's seen as a force behind a lot of the factions that are ripping the white house apart. and john kelly wants to get a handle on that, but it's really not clear to me, and clearly to trump, that getting rid of bannon will do that. the idea that the base is going to go into uproar, if bannon ...